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@Midi The whole front end is super flexy. Wrenching on the bars gives you about 10mm of movement through the bars, stem, fork and tire I’d say. No negative issues for me with this as I’m not doing any sprinting and feels fine when riding. Will be interested to see if the back half flexes as much if loaded with panniers.
My touring bike is an old English frame of an unknown builder and while I love it it’s very noodley fully loaded.