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  • It's worth remembering that the UK is, at heart, quite a classically liberal/small-c conservative country.

    Not really appropriate for the Starmer thread but I have heard a bit of the sentiment "I wish there was an actual conservative party to vote for" recently. I suspect it's a big group, some of them are currently voting anyone but Tory, but possibly more are just voting big C conservative - so another option would split that vote.

  • That's interesting - what aspect of conservatism do you think they're after - i.e. social or economic (or something else I can't think of?)

  • My guess (and this is a shot in the dark) would be that there are sections of the Tories' traditional base who are offended by Johnson's uncouthness/brazen 'sleaze' (for want of a better word).

    Either that or there are people who think that the Tories' rhetorical promise of various regional investment programmes, plus their spending throughout covid, constitute some sort of socialist betrayal of true conservatism

  • I assume it's both. I think there are quite a lot of small c conservatives who dislike neoliberal economic values and want to see conservatism as a route to 'social good' not greed.

    Edit: yes agree also the brazen corruption and lying is a turn off.

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