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  • I suppose you're right about it being the 'best of both worlds' in that there was neither a mass exodus from Labour for being a party of leave, nor was there a mass exodus from Labour for being a party of remain (as arguably there was in 2019 although this was of course only one factor among many in the defeat).

    Either way, Brexit was less of a wedge issue in 2017 than it was in 2019. I don't think the idea that 'it was passionate remainers with nowhere else to go' who contributed to Labour gaining seats in 2017 is a particularly coherent one.

  • I think 2017 was a weird election -i know people who voted labour as a more direct, brexit related "anti Tory" vote, more so than in 2019, so am sure there was some element of it.

  • Yeah, don't get me wrong—it was clearly pretty odd terrain. Still, it's the only election since 1997 in which Labour gained seats. There are clearly some lessons to be learned from it.

  • Nothing new there, lots of people held their nose and voted for Labour under Blair.

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