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  • Yeah I don't disagree with you on that. I try to be as fair as possible - I understand why he's trying to calm the culture war stuff, and I understand why he's not cutting through given the restrictions on party conferences / rallies, and I also understand the profoundly damaged state in which he inherited the party. These are all the reasons I try to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    However I do agree with his critics that at some point he is going to need to pick a side and argue for it passionately. And there's no good choice, either he alienates the red wall or he alienates the cities. I don't think it's possible to weave a single path between the two. It's the same choice Corbyn faced and I don't want Starmer to wait too long the way Corbyn did.

  • Everything he's done makes sense. But I was talking to the other half about this last night. I think our conclusion was that with his analytical approach, ability to be across the detail and rational evidence-based mind, Starmer is exactly the kind of person who should be running the country.

    However, this is not the kind of person the public vote for :/

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