Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

@swistak cheers that's really helpful.

As @swistak said all main dealer prices are pre set by BMW UK, they also regularly audit the dealers, if they over charge by so much as a penny the customer gets the full invoice refunded.

As the bill says 1 AW is 6 mins (1/12 of an hour) so you have a total of two hours labour there, two years ago our dealership Labour rate was about £170 plus VAT per hour, there were other discounts {four plus for cars four years or older} {six plus etc} Surprised the bill does not show parts itemised separately .

tl/dr: Dammit got a new estate with a bum seat but still no new engine in the Porsche.

I got a bill for the bottom end and assembly today - £7,560, which is going to leave a mark and sting for a bit.

In Taycan chat, of the many bling car choices on our road there's a chap with a Taycan (in that green colour which is amazing) and a Tesla model S (as well as a family 4x4 of some sort).
Someone else has a Lambo 4x4, Fiat 500 Abarth and some Merc big cruiser.

and the point here is that your road is populated by people who own more cars than they need?

Yes - very much so. In particular the choice to have 2 big flash expensive electric cars which IMO slightly defeats the object. But each to their own I guess.

There’s nowt as queer as folk!

Maybe it’s like power tools where you use one whilst the other is charging?

ouch

Yes. I think each engine will be around 25k for these prototypes. Not including engine management.

https://demanmotorsport.com/

It'd be interesting to see what their 4.5L GT4 engines cost as a comparison.

It’s around £25,000 to rebuild a standard Mezger properly, for context.

Edit- not including the cost of the original engine.

I mentioned this a couple of pages back. They aren't bought to save the planet, just the latest, brightest, shiniest, costliest thing to have. Giant iPads.

Ish. I mean, they absolutely are the latest, brightest, shiniest things - a long way from the costliest, but they're very expensive.

Where they come in is in a comparison with large, possibly turbo-charged petrol engines, and they're bought by the same people who'd buy them, and for the same reasons - they're very fast, very powerful cars.

They're absolutely not bought because electric is greener, they're bought because electric is faster.

But also who cares?

I'd much rather someone driving a phev or ev around me and my family than one of those 200% cunt massive German coupes.

It would also be nice if more of these bling mobiles were a proportional size to our roads. It's baffling to me that something like the Porsche is the size of a FFRR with less space than a Golf.

We're probably not far from the tipping point where trying to sell rich people fancy ICE cars is akin to trying to sell them a luxury CRT TV or a crystal-encrusted BlackBerry.

(not all rich people, obviously)

I'm sure there will still be a market for Italian V12s.

The next generation E63 will be a turbo-V8-hybrid with ~650bhp, presumably said power figure is achieved with both petrol and electronic power contributing.

Tore the sticking plaster off and went the money for the bottom end. Now very close to there being complete engines

Or any V12.

Cars are getting bigger, look at the size of car and tyre of the first couple of Porsche 911 compared to a 911 from the last 10 years.

This was in interesting car at Formula G at the weekend, 4wd Subaru BRZ.

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RE: Taycan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5LS7_GWnt4

Love this and great to hear the guy talk about building it. Personally I'd love it even more if it looked as stock as possible from outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea7JIngDJKc

So I got the bug to get a Subaru Legacy wagon, a manual preferably. I see that quite a few people here have Subarus, anything in particular I should look out for? I’m looking for a car to rag for a bit and then sell on