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  • Corbyn got to lose two general elections before he got tanked. Starmer should get at least one.

    How many months did Corbyn get before his first internal leadership challenge? 9 months?

  • Whether you like it or not, Corbyn was immensely unpopular with the parliamentary party and, ultimately, the country. That’s why he was challenged.

    Maybe just this once, rather than eating itself in yet another bout of infighting, the Labour Party should actually listen to voters, rather than scolding them, and come up with some policies that address people’s concerns?

  • come up with some policies that address people’s concerns?

    The Labour Right had 5 years to come up with policies, so should be able to put those on the table? Unless they spent all their time moaning and doing nothing productive?

    Bad candidate, bad campaign, bad plan = loss. Shortlist of one, imposed by Starmer!

  • What has Starmer done so far that indicates he can listen to voters, come up with good policies and unite the party?

  • The entire policy base of the Corbyn years was exactly this.

    It was the politician that was undermined (and admittedly in some ways flawed), not the politics. This is lost on the Labour Right who spent the last 5 years salting the earth beneath their own feet rather than develop a compelling political standpoint, and/or counterpoint to the rampant populism and poundshop libertarianism the Tories are managing to sell.

    Listening to voters is only useful if you're able to translate that to a clear, compelling political offering.

    Mandelson, Watson and their shit gang of Blairdad grifters lack the self awareness to acknowledge that they were and continue to be most unappealing, unelectable aspect of the Labour Party.

    Currently the labour party is a shitted bed, and I'm personally a little glad I don't sleep in it anymore.

  • Maybe just this once, rather than eating itself in yet another bout of infighting, the Labour Party should actually listen to voters, rather than scolding them, and come up with some policies that address people’s concerns?

    What if the country have shifted so far right that the Labour party is unable to come up with policies that address peoples concerns and align with Labours political position?

    Julia Hartley Brewers and Darren Grimes hot take - apparently human rights and social issues are wokeism that the electorate aren't interested in and Labour supporting things like taking the knee for BLM or defending migrants is a turn off
    https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1390600671485902850

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