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  • The RC teams are quite clearly the benchmark for international rugby, 8 World Cups to 1 is pretty damming.

    The recent record is heavily skewed by most of the games being played in the NH. Granted AUS and SA have had some shocking periods in the last few years which has helped as well. Look at the historic head to heads.

    I assume you watch SH rugby regularly? Currie Cup, Super Rugby, Mitre Cup, Rugby Championship etc or do you just watch when the NH teams play them? The level of talent which doesn't even make it to international level is scary. Just look at the amount of average SH players who tear up the Premiership and Pro 14 year on year.

    There's no point arguing with you on Billy and AWJ I've watched and played enough Rugby in the last 30 years to know how I feel about them both and their respective abilities.

  • Historically? Sure. Currently? Far less clear.

    I watch the RC and enjoyed the Aotearoa last year. Super Rugby is fun when it gets to the pointy end. I make no claims beyond that. I watch lots of the Guinness Prem so have a good sense of SA's strength in depth. That said, having watched your Pro-14 teams I'm not sure the strength in depth is infinite... ;)

    Are you calling 3-0 SA at this point? I'll happily take a charity bet against that if you've the courage of your convictions?

  • Certainly confident of 2-0 after 2 tests. Can see The Lions winning a consolation third test like in 09. If Pollard or Vermeulen miss it then it's much more even. Happy to stick a tenner into a charity of your choice though if the Lions take it.

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