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dubkev
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Maybe 8 is more durable than 11. Think I read this somewhere earlier on here ...
I've got Alfine 11 on the Douze and it's been skipping gears, sometimes under full load, nearly causing a stack. Also in general feels crunchy and is leaking oil. Had oil swapped and hub opened up and serviced by reputable shop, but it was not much of an improvement. Not a big fan. I mean, it sorta works, but I suspect it's not really all that good to deal with proper torque through the pedals.