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Travelling to Europe to see away games is not going to be that practical either. It seems unlikely to survive or even reach the first season but there will be financial winners and losers in the process.

I'm happy to watch league games in the local park, I struggle to see the value of watching the current crop of super talent from afar.

As per my other answer, I think standard is more of an issue on TV than it is live. The engagement with a live match and the crowd banter are the best reasons to watch football. Also the people you go with, people you meet. It has all been f**ked by TV money.

How much would the income be reduced?

Surely there'd still be an appetite for watching live football on TV if it were "just" the Premier League, football league and cups

I'd imagine that overseas income from China, the US, etc would be pretty heavily impacted.

It sounds like it will be bollocks but I'm sure there are plenty who'll watch it.

What's amusing about the so called big six is that neither Man City nor Tottenham Hotspur have ever won the European Cup. Steaua București and Red Star Belgrade have both won the big cup!

It really is the revenge of the Glazers. The Agnelli family should be ashamed of themselves.

Horrible news about the European Super League. Feels a bit like the day football died.

Can someone explain to me on what basis Spurs and Arsenal made the cut? Neither have won anything in Europe for sometime nor have they consistently played in the CL over the last decade.

My best guess is they made the cut because the Germans are not part of the setup right now.

£revenue based on number of international fans they bring to the table.

Not seen a Leicester or West Ham shirt on sale in HK yet Arsenal and Spurs both have club kit plus lots of athleisure wear for sale out here. The only toffees you see are by the tills at M&S, even then they’re from Devon.

"the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon, and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements"
Sounds shit.

They should be immediately ejected from their national leagues and players banned from other competitions. Won't take long for it to dissolve then.
In reality it's probably just a bargaining move to wring more money out of the Champions League.

Presumably, given the UK clubs already in there are the ones that win most 'domestic achievements' already, we'll never see another UK club playing in this.

I wonder quite how much of the Premier League's income depends on the big clubs plus Spurs? I suspect the answer is 'most of it' and I doubt they (the PL) are in a position to tell them to do one over it.

I would like to hear the case for it. So far the radio has been full of the usual talking heads telling us how bad it is but can anything that Boris Johnson, UEFA, FIFA and Rio Ferdinand disagrees with be all bad?

None of the talking heads has said anything about how corrupt UEFA and FIFA are and how they have skimmed millions if not billions of the wealth created by 11 of the 12 breakaway clubs. I would have more sympathy with their views if they had not been part of the formation of the Premier/Sky league and the current UEFA establishment.

I hope that this is just a power play to re-balance the power within the game. It is in need of re-balance.

Quite an impressive fuck off from all the supporters groups - as if the clubs give a shit about them.

Anyway - good riddance. Looking forward to a proper tilt at the title next year.

AFAIUI it's a midweek tournament on top of domestic commitments?
I guess they'll fuck off the cups, but still play for the PL.

having read a little more as i understand it the 12 breakaway clubs essentially want a champions league that they cant ever not qualify for while staying in domestic leagues. But i think they know they will not be allowed to compete in domestic leagues so the super league becomes the main event.
As cllive said i hope this is just a power play

Sounds like a shit idea to give already-rich owners a consistent bankroll they can use for other means. I can't believe this will happen, although I also can't believe that FIFA or UEFA will actually impose any sanctions on players or clubs, surely they're just looking for a cut of the cash, isn't that the driving 'principle' they all stick too.

if players who play in the super league are banned from WC, euros, Copa America etc would players go on strike ?

Would the Emirates Cup still happen?

Would anyone notice if it did(n't)?

This thread makes interesting reading.

https://twitter.com/shaunkrish/status/1384020087783387136?s=21

Aren't all those things, while indeed widespread and perhaps pioneered by Chelsea, terrible things?

Aren't UEFA and FIFA terrible things?

And both very much in need of reform.

Yes! And the FA. And the Premier League, and Sky Sports etc.

Foreign ownership of football is not completely a "terrible thing" It has done a lot of good particularly for the UK's perception in the world. If it were so bad, why would so many clubs have followed Chelsea's example?

Building up a loan squad is a necessary response to FFP and has led to a golden generation of academy products coming trough at Chelsea. It has also produced a good number of players not working at all levels of the game. No, not a terrible thing.

That is a good read. And I have no sympathy for uefa or fifa but a super league will not progress the game and won't improve European football simply on the fact there is no dropping out of the league no jeapody. Isn't that what people are calling the closed shop aspect??? Or am I missunderstanding?

Jose sacked?

Lineker saying so and BBC news quoting him