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Making some progress with the industrial machine: After a lot of Instagram detective work I found that hardly any bag maker uses a bottom feed machine, for good reason presumably so I ruled out the 8700. Would very much want an automatic machine for thread cutting and automatic start stop tacks so my I’m now looking at the Juki 5410-7. I’ve found one for €900, a lot of money but from what I’ve seen them go for it’s a bargain. So I should be able to recoup most if not everything if I regret buying it for whatever reason, will see what the seller says. Any pointers on what to look for when buying it? Will definitely bring some fabrics to test with, but with a distinct lack of tyres to kick I’m not sure what else to do / check.