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  • The whole bonkers thing about getting you to sign up for another 3 months while putting the weights way back down stinks of bullshit to me tho

    Yup, that's the bit that makes it a bad deal.

    Gym membership say £300pm for a posh one, then £75ph for the PT.
    That's definitely in the ballpark.

    But if you're signing up to 3 hours a week up front for a period of months then you should expect essentially a coach instead of a polished OTP plan.

  • I just can't conceive an individual needing 3 hours a week of PT time unless they're either elite or needing A LOT of guidance. It should be 90%+ working in the gym/doing the program.

    I'm up north admittedly, but I thought I was paying a lot when it was £70/mo for my Olympic weightlifting gym - which was all coached sessions and with programming. I was in 6 days a week at the time and I didn't feel short of coaching at any time.
    Coaching wasn't one on one, but they were always there. Just checked and even now it's only £100/mo.

  • I just can't conceive an individual needing 3 hours a week of PT time unless they're either elite or needing A LOT of guidance. It should be 90%+ working in the gym/doing the program.

    Yeah, I'm not intending to be too dismissive. Between a gym near work, a gym near home, a decent turbo, zwift, strava, trainerroad, track sessions, swim sessions, plus actually racing every now and then, I certainly pay more than I could given what I actually end up doing. It looks like Dammit's put in a load of effort and is in a lot better shape than he was 6 months ago.
    As dst said, I'd imagine he knows most of what he needs to by now to stay fit or improve more. Roar is almost certainly not good value for money if the motivation is unwavering and knowledge is already there - but their thing will be getting people with disposable income that are happy to pay for the structure and outsource the cognitive load. Again - I'm not trying to be sniffy about it - if something is convenient then you'll be more likely to build the habit.

    Anyway, it's a long winded way of basically agreeing with Dammit. It's served its purpose but they'll probably need to up their game if they want to keep him now that he's into good habits and could do with more than a cookie cutter plan.

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