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  • You've misunderstood the graphs I'm afraid. The first graph doesn't show Starmer, you're right, it shows Corbyn in context. The second graph does show Corbyn vs Starmer and while it shows that Starmer's approval ratings are currently negative, it also shows that Corbyn's were never anything but. The third graph was just there to show how easy it is to compare odd points of data between the two parties to create any picture you want - which you've done. (Corbyn's Labour was polling under Starmer's for almost all of 2019, and prior to the 2017 GE.)

  • tbc specifically said Starmer is below Corbyn after GE2017, which the data you presented agrees with. That's not clear evidence that they are wrong is it?

    Whether that's cherry picking is another discussion, but calling 2 years of Corbyn's Labour polling a blip is quite disingenuous.

  • Wasn't the comment specifically that it was cherry picking? That's not "another discussion", it's literally the discussion being had.

    I don't know what to say about the labour polling from 2017 - 19. It didn't help, did it? It led up to a disastrous result.

  • Whether that's cherry picking is another discussion, but calling 2 years of Corbyn's Labour polling a blip is quite disingenuous.

    I misunderstood what tbc was saying - I thought he was saying that Starmer's personal approval ratings were better than Corbyn's in 2017, when they were talking about Labour's polling now vs Labour's GE performance in 2017 - but there's no need to call me disingenuous. It is a fact that choosing Corbyn's best and Starmer's worst as your point of comparison is cherry picking the stats. People are very welcome to do that - I do it myself! - but it's quite reasonable to point it out.

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