That Starmer fella...

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ReekBlefs

This isn't a surprising stat to me as a Labour member, but it may be to some.

The loudest voices are not always the most representative.

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tbc in reply to @ReekBlefs
Yet he's still less popular than Jeremy Corbyn in 2017.

It's a dire situation he really needs to turn around. He won't win the manufactured "culture war" and shouldn't even try.

He needs to do something though, perhaps on education where the Tories have been absolutely shambolic for the last two years and where the latest big idea is to take away phones because Williamson has decided based on absolutely nothing that behaviour is probably bad, and that creating a furore around phones might distract people from the exam shambles and his ideas about making teachers in a demoralised profession where 1/3 want to leave work longer hours with shorter holidays.

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andyfallsoff in reply to @tbc

He won't win the manufactured "culture war" and shouldn't even try.

He's not though is he? He's trying to avoid it. It seems that the main criticism of him is that he isn't taking the points in this culture war and people would prefer he did.
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Labour could really make a big dent in the Tories on education if their narrative was:
Reform of the school system (academy's are simply not working)
Removing public schools from their charity status bullshit
All edu is free to degree level.
You can't trust the backstabbing Tories on uni fees
etc

And then wrap that up in becoming a global centre of excellence for education, research, etc...
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ReekBlefs in reply to @tbc

Yet he's still less popular than Jeremy Corbyn in 2017.

With respect, that's not really true. When talking about Corbyn vs Starmer, a personal comparison, the stats are really clear:

What I think you COULD say is that Starmer's Labour at its least popular (35%) is less popular than Corbyn's Labour at its most popular (44%):

That'd be true. But it'd also be cherry picking. I could pull the same move and say just as truthfully that Starmer's Labour's worst result (35%) is still 13 points clear of Corbyn's worst (22%). But then I'd be cherry picking to make my point. Neither point of view is really fair or well rounded, its just stat-torturing.

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