Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

That twat pushed in front of me in a queue in Girona. csb.

THE ENERGY THAT RUNS THROUGH US

Nauseating.

Still don’t know who he is

can tell this thread has poisoned me as my first response was

"oh i get it because its only got like what, 40mm tyres? p much a road bike as the zeitgeist demands 2" or death"

but i assume you actually meant

"this is the bke i ride when i just want to go for a cycle"

Road is 32c max
Gravel 29x2.2

650b/27.5 shouldnt exist

honestly since i've seen you can put a 35 on a caad13 tyre manufacturers should just stop making anything below 30

Hi all, first post sorry if this is the wrong thread but what would your pick be out of a Kona Sutra Ltd vs. Ritchey Outback? Has anyone ridden either? The Kona seems more versatile but I keep hearing great things of the Outback and seems great unloaded too.
https://konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm
https://eu.ritcheylogic.com/eu_en/bike/frames/outback-frameset

Looking for something better suited to longer rides to the coast/Chilterns/Cotswolds than my NoLogo SS and coming from an xc mtb background.

TBH this year it might whichever one you can get a hold of. But my uninformed analysis:

Richey has slightly less clearance (2mm) but a carbon fork, so it'll be a bit lighter but you can't fit a front rack (may or may not matter to you, you can still fit cargo cages to the Ritchey).

I guess you can only get the Ritchey as a frameset so maybe the idea of a full custom build appeals to you or doesn't.

Both will probably work fine for what you describe. I would advise you to just buy whichever appeals to you a bit more and leave the finer points to dorks.

Sweet!

If money was no object I'd go for the Ritchey.

The Sutra will be a bit more familiar to you as a MTBer I reckon. Designed for proper 'expeditions'.

Have you looked at the Kona Rove? It's a bit in between the two - carbon fork, slightly less relaxed geo but still a bunch of mounts and clearance for big tyres.

As Belagerent points out it's also incredibly hard to get anything at the moment...

The Kona looks great. It is quite oriented towards off-road, fat tyres, bike packing/touring with the low 1x gearing and good mounting points.

The Ritchey could be built up for all-road 700c riding. I think that’s it’s intended use.

Arguably, neither does anything an Arkose can’t.

Personally I wouldn’t choose the Kona for long rides in the Cotswolds unless loaded. I am a roadie at heart I guess. To me fast bikes are fun bikes.

It's 40mm because I happened to have them in the stash when I build it back. It's kinda my take on the allroad bike whatever. Just a good mood bike that works well in Finland, still adjusting to that whole "no fenders thing".

Anyone know what fork Hunt, sorry, Cairn are rebadging.

Carbon, internal hose routing, loads of mounts, internal dynamo routing, 240e but December delivery.

Same as Bombtrack calls Hook Ext 2

whatever it might be, £209 is a good price to pay to a UK brand for warranty etc

December delivery plus Brexit means it's not terribly useful to me

Yeah... found that one. Availability is minimal for that too

that is lovely! Been thinking of painting my grav bike a white/off white for a while, so this is good inspo

Dunno but there's a bunch on Aliexpress
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005002087454472.html

SRAM HRD people - these bleed instructions from Cyclist are on point, even goes into detail on how to set your bite point, without farting about with advancing the pistons

Wow, December delivery from a preorder is wild

Anyone know what fork Hunt, sorry, Cairn are rebadging.

Carbon, internal hose routing, loads of mounts, internal dynamo routing, 240e but December delivery.

Bit more but Enigma have this (and another version without the triple mounts). Has a light mount on the crown which the Cairn doesn't.

SRAM HRD people - these bleed instructions from Cyclist are on point

I printed out a one page guide with just the essentials. Immediate quality of sram life upgrade.

Looks similar to the fyxation fork

https://www.fyxation.com/collections/forks/products/sparta-fcr-all-road-full-carbon-fork

But cheaper