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TBH this year it might whichever one you can get a hold of. But my uninformed analysis:
Richey has slightly less clearance (2mm) but a carbon fork, so it'll be a bit lighter but you can't fit a front rack (may or may not matter to you, you can still fit cargo cages to the Ritchey).
I guess you can only get the Ritchey as a frameset so maybe the idea of a full custom build appeals to you or doesn't.
Both will probably work fine for what you describe. I would advise you to just buy whichever appeals to you a bit more and leave the finer points to dorks.
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If money was no object I'd go for the Ritchey.
The Sutra will be a bit more familiar to you as a MTBer I reckon. Designed for proper 'expeditions'.
Have you looked at the Kona Rove? It's a bit in between the two - carbon fork, slightly less relaxed geo but still a bunch of mounts and clearance for big tyres.
As Belagerent points out it's also incredibly hard to get anything at the moment...
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The Kona looks great. It is quite oriented towards off-road, fat tyres, bike packing/touring with the low 1x gearing and good mounting points.
The Ritchey could be built up for all-road 700c riding. I think that’s it’s intended use.
Arguably, neither does anything an Arkose can’t.
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Of those two, the Sutra is more suited to bikepacking and touring and the Ritchey for general riding + bikepacking, if that makes sense.
I'd go for the Ritchey.
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Hi all, first post sorry if this is the wrong thread but what would your pick be out of a Kona Sutra Ltd vs. Ritchey Outback? Has anyone ridden either? The Kona seems more versatile but I keep hearing great things of the Outback and seems great unloaded too.
https://konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm
https://eu.ritcheylogic.com/eu_en/bike/frames/outback-frameset
Looking for something better suited to longer rides to the coast/Chilterns/Cotswolds than my NoLogo SS and coming from an xc mtb background.