Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

two copies of the LRB!
ok boomer

do people consider 9.5kg to be heavy?

My Trek Checkpoint is 8kg (without mudguard and such) with 700 x 38mm tubed.

Gonna get 650b to drop weight and tubeless it, gravel bike are so much fun when they’re as light as a road bike.

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I wish I could drop my rapture to below 9kg.

lighter wheels and tubless would help, however I think dropping 0.6kg is easy money.

My plans include swapping the 3t fork for Enve, switching from tubed 650b heavy wheels to tubeless 700c hed ardennes. Switching 42t cassette for a 36 possibly, swapping spider and chainring for a direct mount oval one. Fairly sure that would put it a chunk under 9kg

I have the fork and wheels spare. I wouldn't otherwise spend that kind of cash chasing grams

I'm tempted to strip the paint and clear coat the raw carbon but that's for being tarty, not weight

My carbonda barely went over 8.5kg with guards. Everything was carbon with LB flyweight wheels.

Never try to reduce weight in groupset. 1x is heavier than 2x with cheaper cassettes. Smaller gears are lighter i.e instead of 50t and 11-46, 42t and 11-32. Wheels is where the best £:gram value lies. Maybe seatpost and stem if you go extralite/darimo etc. Never a carbon saddle; too stiff to sit on.

I don't want the saddle but it came on it and I don't have the post clamp for round rails.

Gonna get 650b to drop weight

I thought 650 wheels end up weighing more because whilst the rims and spokes are a little lighter, chonky rubber weighs loads.

I think 'chonk' is one of my favourite words recently.

Obviously depends on the chonk.

i hear just cycling slower saves more energy than weight reduction at a fraction of the cost? can anyone confirm?

Never try to reduce weight in groupset. 1x is heavier than 2x with cheaper cassettes.

Show your working.

I definietly need new wheels tbf and tubeless would help too. Im looking at getting some sram force / s900 carbon cranks with direct mount or easton 1x cranks soon too. beats the old rival cranks in looks but weight probably not much

could swap the thomson seatpost for a carbon but I like it aesthetically.

Just Ridimg Along have a tubeless carbon wheelset that’s under 1300g.

I thought 650 wheels end up weighing more...

A 47mm in 650b is 510g.

A 42mm in 700c is 520g.

(Teravail Rampart).

must have been the tubeless thing wrong, weigh pretty much the same for each set up.

How much does a 700cx28 weigh because that is a more similar diameter to 650bx47. Otherwise just get a smaller frame cos they weigh less too ;-)

I don't know. Fight among yourselves.

https://ccache.cc/blogs/newsroom/2020-road-gravel-groupset-weight-comparison

https://www.mtbr.com/threads/1x-versus-2x-weight-comparisons.1016082/

https://www.pinkbike.com/u/P-D-X/blog/1x-vs-2xin-proper-detail.html

The only infographic I've seen showed the same gear range in 1x worked out heavier but that was ages ago.

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I know this isn't on the schedule but what bronzer/self-tanning lotion are ppl using now that the temperatures are rising and pins are getting shaved. do u even shave for gravel riding actually

If we're keepnig the same outer diameter then a fairer comparison is:

650b 53mm "Sparwood" 615g
700c 35mm "Cannonball" 430g

disc brake fluid?

shit from a butt?

Shit-from-a-Butt-Butter

How much weight would going tubeless save?

My poor man's Vitus is about 8'5 all in but that's pretty light in gravel numbers. Average for a decent OTP gravel biek is 9-11kg.
SRAM is lighter. 1x is lighter. Skinny tires are lighter. Tubeless is lighter, specially with big tires.
Steel is real, but weights. Racks are heavy. Disc braked bikes are heavy. Why do people bother anyways when they strap all kind of bags for a 20 mile canal pootle.