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I should have been clearer. Winston Vaz is former framebuilder at Roberts. Varonha frameworks. Worked there 28years I think it is. He’s not keen on internal stuff, but is a very experienced stick-togetherer of metal tubes.
His brother Mario is Vaz Finishes. Wet paint. Wet paint chips to hell, whoever puts it on, since paint got less toxic and became basically crap. I think the crappy things said on that thread are due to fixielords wanting very cheap paintjobs, Mario being the cheapest, then corners getting cut, etc. tbh he can be a bit slapdash with decals & stuff. Colourtech had a much better reputation at the time, but in the end it all chips. 2k is better for fancy stuff they say, and powdercoat for a basic rock-hard one-colour covering.
Their workshops are diff floors in same building, as well as them being brothers.
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Is it this Vaz we're talking about. Doesn't sound too promising from the first few blurbs 😊
Skully, I already have the frame: that Independent Fabrication up there. Chipped all over so after riding it around a bit and if it's as good as it should be, I'll be stripping and getting painted.
Internal routing only so I can use my bikepacking bags a bit easier with it but it's not a deal breaker...
Edit: just read the more recent posts on there. Fair enough and sounds a good chap. Probably not for me though as I'll need to post via mail and seems he's difficult to get hold of to coordinate things 🙂