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  • ....and while everyone talks about the non issue of flags, the real issues:

    • the new proposed legislation on refugees
    • policing bill
    • government ballsup/corruption on covid procurement and strategy
    • continued schools/exams fuck up
    • brexit related problems

    are ignored.

    Whenever the Tories need to bury their bad news they just bring up some incendiary culture war nonsense that they can fully rely on the left/centre to fight each other to the death about. They keep doing it and will continue to keep doing it and I read it as 100% cynical 'dead cat' stuff. Starmer's version of LOTO is probably right to just adopt flags etc as nbd, mainly cause they are nbd compared to the other stuff. If people stop fighting about it, it outflanks the culture war stuff and hopefully makes it the non issue that it really is. He needs to be more active on opposing the other issues though

  • Agreed, otherwise it just makes you look like you are becoming a shitter version of the tories.

  • He needs to be more active on opposing the other issues though.

    The reason people keep brining up flags with Starmer is that’s all he’s got. He’s either abstaining or actually waving through all the issues you’re talking about.

    I’ll give him a clap for finally voting against something with the Police Bill, when he didn’t with Spycops

  • You're totally right about the BS going on while flags are given inches in newspapers and in the BBC. To be fair, though, I think most people in here have agreed for once and have said fuck the flag talk (even if it was supposed to be one of Starmer's key electoral strategies). And to be fairer, everytime someone calls out Starmer for not taking a position on an important issue, someone else calls it political nous.

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