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  • Quick responses on these:

    1. I guess I reject the idea that moving a bit in one direction means no longer being 'for' the left. It's a question of degree, so if they were entirely throwing away labour policy then I'd accept this, but I don't think they are - it feels like the left of the party aren't used to not getting their way.

    2. Maybe I don't mean democratic legitimacy - not saying that a majority view is illegitimate. But stable and preferential? Yes, I do think that. The more a party is happy taking positions which are closer to the middle ground, the less the chance there is that anything enacted (if they get in power) is then simply changed again when they lose power. I think that stability is an important and good thing, and (as we've seen with brexit) nudging over 50% to pass something that also has huge opposition is not a recipe for balanced, good politics

  • it feels like the left of the party aren't used to not getting their way

    [hollow laughter echoing around the universe for all eternity]

  • Ok that is fair, reading it again!

    I guess I mean in terms of labour party policy. Although to be fair even in Corbyn times there were big rifts re. Brexit etc.

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