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@sb88
Hey up. I've considered those but they don't actually add loads of rise given the -17 angle. Look nice though.
I'm further into gumper territory unfortunately. If I hadn't cut steerers, about 55-60mm spacers with a +7 stem is at least what's needed, which is similar to a 190 or 225mm nitto technomic, or a +17 stem with fewer spacers.
I'm sorting the steel bikes where stacking it up is less of a concern and then if I can ride them comfortably I'll worry about the summer bike with carbon fork.
I'm coming round to the riser-drop bars for one bike where a high angled stem won't suit it