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As for Tegel, its quite different to Thof as its almost outside of city limits?
What do you mean? It's only a short distance further from the centre than Tempelhof (I may be applying a London perception here). It's certainly well within the limits of Berlin, and I don't see why it would be treated differently.
I dislike large-scale masterplanning intensely, and this is what's happening here, e.g. with the plans for the "Schuhmacher-Quartier" (which, annoyingly, they don't hyphenate except in the URL).
https://www.schumacher-quartier.de/
I've looked at a lot of these sorts of masterplans and seen some of the results, and I don't think they ever yield good results.
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Yes, definitely my Kreuzberg nimby bias showing, the two airports are roughly the same distance from the middle, yes. Same goes for the city limits.
What I actually meant to say: Behind Tegel you have Jungfernheide/woods, lakes and mainly typical cute little Berlin outskirts houses. Whereas behind Tempelhof you have quite some dense housing mixed with the small houses, and not a lot of green until the city limits. And when the green stuff starts its fields, and not woods.
So if you look at the two former airports mainly as green spaces, they are different as Tegel is connected to big green spaces.
Interestingly, if it wasn't for the highway (and canal) between Tegel and Volkspark Jungfernheide this is quite similar to Thof and Hasenheide. Thats also one of the main things, Tempelhof managed to stay inside the concrete barrier.
And, as pessimistic you might be about those kind of projects (look at the stuff behind Hauptbahnhof, its so bad) the plan, at least to me, looks better than the one that was proposed for Tempelhof. -
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sorethroat
Still glad that terrible plan for Tempelhof got buried, but right now other parties are trying to resurrect the corpse.
Don't get me wrong, we might have to build on there one day, and this could probably be done in a nice way, but surrounding the whole thing with houses is not a plan.
As for Tegel, its quite different to Thof as its almost outside of city limits?
Looks like housing on that triangle to the right, and university/office around and inside the terminal. Hope the city proves that they can build a good neighbourhood, not many convincing examples around. @Rodolfo that the part you worked on?
Also as usual not easy to find useful information about whats going on. Some more or less nice pictures from the development agency. And all the complicated stuff from the city.