• That is it, people seem to be ignoring/apathetic to these infringements.

    Tin foil hatted me is looking at past statements of how human rights and civil liberties are slowly removed yet we haven't noticed as they are small steps. But this act, is not a small step but a fucking huge grab.

  • That’s pretty much why the government is going to get away with this.
    You won’t be able to wave placards after this act is passed. If you do and someone is annoyed you’ll have to stop or you could be charged with a criminal offence, the maximum sentence for which is ten years. It’s an extreme example but it is what is possible under the proposed legislation.
    I have little doubt that this government with its majority and ineffective opposition, and the support of the media and the number of distractions will get this through. But I’m not letting them do it without a fight.
    There so much buried in there that it’s almost impossible to write about, it’s impossible to debate in the house. And of course there are many bigger issues to be addressed.
    But I’m so angry I’m going post about it on a cycling forum. That’ll teach them.

  • send short and sweet group letters to your MP clearly saying that you oppose the bill

    My MP is that utter cunt rees fucking mogg. I have written to him a few times recently including the cummings trip to the country fiasco and I get fobbed off with a 'don't bother me pleb' kind of letter.

    This tory government don't give a shit about anything other than making as much money as they can for themselves, or pushing their populist nonsense on the weak minded that walk amongst us.

  • I would like to add that Rees Mogg is a cunt (again)

  • My mp is that toadying climate change denier that’s been appointed to preside over COP26. Sharma.
    He replies really quickly but entirely vacuously. One of my friends is really impressed by the speed he replies. I asked if any of the replies were meaningful. She admitted they weren’t but she’s happy that at least she got a letter.
    But he’s not as big a cunt as Rees Mogg.

  • This is really quite basic stuff, and I’m surprised it needs repeating - if your local MP is a Tory, then he/she is a cunt. No excuses, no exceptions. You cannot trust the vermin with anything, certainly not the basic civil liberties of the Ordinary People.

    Still, Blue Passports, eh?

  • And we need the Tories to rebel against this Bill, so write to them anyway.

  • When was the last time that worked?

    It strikes me that if we're not prepared to exercise our right to protest then we've already lost, Bill or no Bill.

  • Is this legislation now possible because of brexit\could this have been done if we were full EU?

  • Nothing to do with Brexit.
    My MP wrote back to my complaint about the protest bit of the bill saying:

    1. it was very important that it should pass to it could stop Bad Things but also I shouldn't worry because it was just codifying existing law.
    2. people could invoke their human rights if they felt hard done to
      Pretty weak sauce even by her standards
  • Yet, he keeps getting voted in.

    Also good friend of Jess Philips!

  • Write to them to try, but with past history or the threat losing their job (having the whip removed) the lickspitals won't do anything. But we can hope.

  • Not sure, but believe that parts of the act infringe right of protest at the very least.

  • Shit, that’s going to play so well with those who are on board with the Telegraph/Mail narrative, ‘proves’ the bill is required.

    Plus the demonstrators will of course be the reason for any increase in cases of COVID, not the decisions by the government such as “all back to school now”, no, definitely not that

  • Yeah. That’s a massive own goal. The conspiracy theorist in me suggests that the violence may well have been a ploy to make the point.
    Send the hard right in to a lefty protest to make it look as bad as Patel wants it to be seen.
    It’s very murky out there.

  • Isn't that Monkey from Quadrophenia?

  • Isn't that Monkey from Quadrophenia?

    Ha I kinda thought the same!

  • Are you surprised? How many times does this tactic have to be used, till we see it as a standard police tatic of kettling. Believe that same tactics were used at the clapham vigil.

  • Due pretty much to our collective apathy this monster of a bill passed the third reading in the House of Commons today.
    Our freedoms have been stolen from us.

  • :(

    Did anyone write to their MPs?

  • I did, never heard back. TBH my MP constantly defends the xenophobic comments of a local councillor (both Torys) and probably has me on the straight to the shredder pile.

  • I didn't see this thread in time, but unfortunately there was never any way in which this bill wouldn't have passed. It's not just apathy, but sheer exhaustion because of deeply unjust government since 2010, when people's ability to protest was broken through a welter of evil policies. If I started to list the things that the Government has been doing just this month that are completely wrong, I'd still be sitting here tomorrow morning. Add to that increasing surveillance (in which many people participate quite enthusiastically), the way they've taken away the dole and (non-commercial) squatting, which were always mainstays of protesters, and the way in which elections are manipulated through arms-length organisations (I don't believe for one second that illegal F******* data isn't used any more, it's just gone completely quiet on that), as well as the usual rightwing press, and you can see where it's all heading.

    Sure, people spend too much time in front of computers, and the Internet is the most distracting thing ever invented, but that's definitely not all of it. There are simply too many problems before you even start to mention the pandemic.

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