• That was a very late, direct response to the MPV category as well as emissions regulations (started the move towards FWD cars for them). It's a fucking awful, drab thing for people that just don't care anymore.

    They're repeating the same mistakes for EVs; late to market, poor execution etc.

  • It's a fucking awful, drab thing for people that just don't care anymore.

    Absolutely, the definition of "I don't give a shit about what car I own".

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