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I guess the Ribbles are made abroad which might have something to do with it? Not that it really bothers me hugely as I’ve been riding a Genesis Equilibrium / Zero both of which hail from Taiwan. And vs the Strael which has 853 / 725 / 631 tubes in different parts of the frame so I guess in theory higher quality. That All City which I posted which kicked off this discussion is Reynolds but not clear on what variety.
The Mason pricing really does seem out there. Strael frame sets must have seemed a great deal when they were £999 a couple of years ago.