• Ah OK, now I follow you.

    Going back to the OP, this would imply more stack & more reach compared to road

  • I like my long and low aero road position but I'd not like to ride that off-road. My gravel bike, even with a lower stack than some road bikes is still higher, the top tube is super long with a tiny 100mm stem and the front is slack, with wider bars. Still decent in the road with the right tires, but much less of a handful than my road bike when things get bumpy.

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