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Ah OK, now I follow you.
Going back to the OP, this would imply more stack & more reach compared to road
mind_maze-
More stack for sure. Not more reach generally. A shorter stem and wider bars.
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I like my long and low aero road position but I'd not like to ride that off-road. My gravel bike, even with a lower stack than some road bikes is still higher, the top tube is super long with a tiny 100mm stem and the front is slack, with wider bars. Still decent in the road with the right tires, but much less of a handful than my road bike when things get bumpy.
miro_o
Netakure
We’re definitely not :)
You want weight further back for off road (relative to road) and some more room to move around.
I’m afraid one leads to another.