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Success! I was trying without the wheel in, was fairly comical with the bike sliding along the garage floor on the padock stand but eventually came good. Hella fun spanning was what I wanted, so far it's great. Plan is to make it mint (eventually) and do some choice upgrades along the way. Most parts on eBay are comically cheap so feels very accessible without breaking the bank.
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With or without wheel in? I tend to just lay bike down and strap wheel to something solid whilst I remove spocket.
What you doing to the bike? That looks like hella fun spannering.