That Starmer fella...

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grams in reply to @andyfallsoff

A Labour party that stands up for progressive policies and doesn't get into power at least still serves a purpose in keeping the Overton window from shifting ever rightwards.

A Labour party that's terrified of supporting anything more than half a millimetre left of the Tories and still doesn't get into power is a total waste of fucking space.

what's the point of trying again with exactly the same and seeing how it plays out at an election?

They tried the charisma-free leader and focus-grouped-to-death policies in 2015. How did that go?

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christianSpaceman in reply to @grams

at least still serves a purpose in keeping the Overton window from shifting ever rightwards.

Do you think that's what's happened the past few years? As far as I can see it's moved wildly to the right

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andyfallsoff in reply to @christianSpaceman

Exactly what I thought... Has been utterly ineffective, if that is the goal.

I also don't really see which of Starmer's policies are supposedly Tory lite anyway
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grams in reply to @christianSpaceman

And do you think that's going to continue slower or quicker with Mr Let's-Not-Offend-The-Bigots?

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