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A Labour party that stands up for progressive policies and doesn't get into power at least still serves a purpose in keeping the Overton window from shifting ever rightwards.
A Labour party that's terrified of supporting anything more than half a millimetre left of the Tories and still doesn't get into power is a total waste of fucking space.
what's the point of trying again with exactly the same and seeing how it plays out at an election?
They tried the charisma-free leader and focus-grouped-to-death policies in 2015. How did that go?
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They tried the charisma-free leader and focus-grouped-to-death policies in 2015. How did that go?
Better than the last election.
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at least still serves a purpose in keeping the Overton window from shifting ever rightwards.
Do you think that's what's happened the past few years? As far as I can see it's moved wildly to the right
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To some extent, isn't the point to actually try?
We've had two unsuccessful attempts with Corbyn. You say "what's the point" but what's the point of trying again with exactly the same and seeing how it plays out at an election?
Also dispute calling Starmer Tory lite. I'm not mad about the flags (or staying quiet on some human rights issues) but very clear economically distinct and quite progressive - this on the current policy is good https://www.politics.co.uk/comment/2021/01/21/under-the-radar-labours-progressive-economic-agenda/