• I've been looking for a similar kind of bike recently. Love my trail bike, but it's a bit of a tank and slow at covering the miles. Hardtails seem to fall into two categories at the moment. They're either lightweight xc rigs, or longlowslack trail monsters.. brilliant fun I'm sure, but I'm not sure how good they'd be at longer rides. And big bikes in steel = heavy.

    Best middle ground I've found that's not £££ is the canyon grand canyon range. Description says they're for light trails, but the '8' and '9' models look like solid all-rounders to me.

  • Not sure how much my 853 LLS weighs, never occurred to me to weigh it. I shall find out.

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