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Are you saying that if you can't see that the "old regime" (whatever that means) was antisemitic you are therefore an antisemite? Because if so, we're back to the claim that left is antisemitic.
Quite clearly I'm not saying that. There's a difference between saying that the party leadership is inherently racist (what bleakrefs was inferring when he said the left) and 'all leftwingers are racist' (a inference that is clearly not meant as literally as that in the sentence that u quoted, if it was it would be completely ridiculous) I understand why there is this hysteria on the left of the party and I (and I think bleakrefs) am saying that it doesn't bear any relationship to the reality of things. Look at the substance of his speech today. As many people on here have said it is promising and actually quite left wing. So far not antisemitic. Let's hope that the rumblings of racism against BAME people in the party are properly dealt with and that the current regime deal with it clearly,effectively and transparently.
The 'old regime' is the leadership of corbyn.
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And I provided that proof.
He said it. I quoted it. Who's gaslighting who now? If there is a misunderstanding of his meaning (which he's claiming there is), fine. But multiple people read it the same way I did.
Are you saying that if you can't see that the "old regime" (whatever that means) was antisemitic you are therefore an antisemite? Because if so, we're back to the claim that left is antisemitic.
Now it's you're turn to show me where someone's said something. On the whole people have been really open to Starmer, if disappointed. As I read it (and I could be wrong), it's the constant "but he's better than Corbyn!" that's causing arguments. It's pointless and unhelpful.
It's impossible to have real discussions on this thread. We've talked about this so many times, Ben, but the internet turns people into idiots (myself included, obvs).