• I'd considered a Swiss Cross as I've always liked them, one of my brothers has a P-21 which is really nicely made. Having said that, the design is quite CX-oriented and for a winter bike I'm inclined to go for more stable and secure geometry with a lower BB

    Build course is in the plan for this year or next, so I'm not yet decided on whether this should be self-build or not.

  • Weirdly I used to have the Swiss cross as a winter bike and found the opposite - when I switched to something with the more pedestrian geo, found it a bit dull in comparison...

    Depends what you want from it though, obviously. I miss it though

  • I’ve been looking between Swiss Cross, because I’ve always liked them, and a road logic with a 700c road and 650b winter wheelset - does the outback sit somewhere in the middle? Not overly familiar with it

    @Rik_Van_Looy what about a disc road logic and two wheel sets?

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