Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

I got the link from Micheal Rosens twitter account, as Ed had died. Thought the blog? was interesting.

GPs and Primary Care Networks are being directed to trawl electronic medical records for specific SNOMED diagnostic clinical codes that meet the criteria for Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (Appendix 1 in attacment details what they are) so if you have ever been diagnosed with anything on the list you would be invited. I think there was earlier chat of people saying they “had a heart problem but nothing recent” and had been invited but it will be any diagnosis at any point in your life that gets flagged.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/02/C1124-vaccination-cohorts-5-6-additional-funding-residential-settings.pdf

I've got an appointment for Friday, I think because I have one of the conditions listed in that, in my case being coeliac.

Surely you get it on age as well?

Germany might have messed up their vaccination program. They have hundreds of thousands of
AstraZeneka doses available because people don't show up. There are reports of severe reactions to the vaccine.

At the ambulance service in Dortmund around a quarter of the employees had to report sick after the vaccination. In several hospitals in Lower Saxony, vaccinations with the AstraZeneca vaccine were temporarily stopped on Tuesday. An unusually large number of employees had previously had vaccine reactions.

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/astrazeneca-impfstoff-nrw-regierung-berichtet-von-schwindender-akzeptanz-a-773397eb-6b9f-4c7f-9e4f-56ed41812d28

I wonder if that is a placebo effect after the false report of the Handelsblatt and the news
about South Africa stopping the vaccinations?

The Liverpool obesity crisis is leading to queue jumping!

Word on the local (dog-walking) street is 50+ are already getting called in round our endz because the take-up vs invite is very low among the new cohorts.

And a lot even younger than that. One 30 year old around here (on a local forum) was surprised at being invited, called her GP practice (who had sent the invite) and was told it was because she had one of the health conditions that constituted getting the jab early. In her case it was asthma that she had suffered as a child, but had long since cleared up, but it was on her medical records and that's all it took to flag her for an early vaccine.

I guess a lot of the work for identifying these new cohorts is being by computer trawling the medical records, hence the story of the 6cm high bloke from Liverpool above being called because of his miscalculated BMI.

Was just reading about this. Fucking hell. Stoking uncertainty about vaccines in the middle of a pandemic, providing fuel for anti-vaxxers, to score political points. What could go wrong? It'll be interesting to see if there's similar issues in France.

Ah yes, I've been reading about that over the last few days, too.

Vaccine nationalism, what could possibly go wrong?

Yes - a few locals around here (me included) have been invited to get the jab at the large central London hospitals St Thomas/UCLH etc and asked why they were expected to travel into London when there is local jabbery half a mile down the road. The advice is to contact your GP and get the location changed. Mine contacted me about 2 hours after receiving the Euston UCLH invite.
The only business I recall having with them is with an ophthalmologist.

Hospitals and GP networks are prioritising different cohorts

Hospitals and GP networks are prioritising different cohorts

Yes, It was announced that GPs would be concentrating on people with underlying conditions which might be more complicated, and they'd hopefully have a relationship with, rather than bulk vaccinations.

Yes of course, on receiving a vaccine invitation you should absolutely immediately interrogate the people inviting you who definitely have nothing better to do. FFS

Never let perfect be the enemy of good in a pandemic.

Does the vaccine cause massive overreactions to cycling forum posts?

I volunteered at our hub yesterday, 1720 people vaccinated (usually 1200) and they were queuing round the block. Definite big increase in chancers turning up asking if they could get jabbed at the end of the day - all saying that they’d heard this is how surplus is used up. Presumably they’d spoken to @lynx :) They were told no but some still joined the queue, slowing it up for people with appointments and having to be turned away.

We were asked to staff an extra one on Saturday just gone, presumably all part of helping the government meet its target.

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Has so far

Was just reading about this. Fucking hell. Stoking uncertainty about vaccines in the middle of a pandemic, providing fuel for anti-vaxxers, to score political points. What could go wrong? It'll be interesting to see if there's similar issues in France.

Looks like France is even worse!

Chart of who would get vaccine if available this week

Edit:

Actually looking at the historical graph, things are improving, so nothing proven.

Can't see the spiegel link, so are they a valid news source now? Any idea what the vaccine reactions are? If it is nocebo/hysteria, then it is fucked. How fucked we will see.

France is areas of weird, eligible older and vulnerable people passing on the vaccine wanting so those that are more vulnerable as there maybe a shortage of vaccines.

Also as my wife (French) tells me, there is a deep cultural distrust of vaccines. Also with the same BAME uptake issues that we have but worse.

Macron describing the vaccine as "quasi-ineffective" surely won't have helped.

ITV reporting that Italy is struggling to give people the vaccine as well. What a nightmare.

"Covid: Why are Italians refusing the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine? | ITV News" https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-16/covid-why-are-italians-refusing-the-oxfordastrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine

Good to see rates are coming down in London. Still very far from 'end in sight' and I have no idea how much of an assessment the testing really allows, but as it's probably on the same basis as before, this should be grounds for optimism.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-coronavirus-cases-borough-latest-figures-covid-b920222.html

n her case it was asthma that she had suffered as a child, but had long since cleared up, but it was on her medical records and that's all it took to flag her for an early vaccine.

This is basically me. It hasn't been a problem for years, I've had no attacks, no signs of it for years, but my doctors still insist on reviewing it and giving me the flu jab every year because I'm considered higher risk.

Pretty sure this means I will get the vaccine earlier, but they're the doctors and I gave up arguing about it years ago.