• What are you using this for Hippo?
    I think a modern XCish frame if it'll take bigger tyres with 100-120mm fork would be ideal for everything that isn't "trails". Distance riding off road, single track, climbing mountains etc
    I've got a slack hardtail and if you point it downhill and over jumps, it's great but it's got a 140mm fork which makes the front end quite high and the steering is a bit twitchy on long flat sections or tarmac where that's necessary. Makes me feel a bit overbiked for my riding as I don't go to bike parks or get to trail centres very often.

  • I think a modern XCish frame if it'll take bigger tyres with 100-120mm fork would be ideal for everything that isn't "trails"

    Not trolling but he's already got a capable big-tyred gravel bike. May as well get something with less usage overlap and enjoy a bigger bike's capabilities in the areas a gravel bike wouldn't go

  • Depends. 42-47c gravel tyres are not the same as a 2.4" MTB tyre. A 120mm suspension fork isn't a rigid carbon one.
    Suggesting a 150mm trail bike just because it's furthest from his gravel bike is a bit silly if he plans on riding it on 1000km ultra races where speed, efficiency are key and there's a distinct lack of jumps and hucks to flat.

  • FWIW I ride my 100mm XC bike a lot even though it has obvious cross over with my Arkose and the 130/120 FS bike I have. Largely because it's fast and fast is fun. And I enjoy doing stuff I shouldn't on it. And few of the trails easily accessible to me really need a big slack bike.

  • This is what I'm thinking. I rode the Badlands on the gravel bike with 38cm bars and aerobars and did ok. But I was definitely not in control on some of the descents. Like full brake lock and the bike is just sliding down the mountain anyway. Haha
    If I wasn't shitting myself I'd probably have let it roll but who knows what you're gonna hit around the next corner?

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