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  • Finally, just to iterate again/set expectations; they're a great winter addition, but would be a bit flimsy in this recent cold snap

    Why, I've successfully used mine in the zero degree rides (realfeel showed -7 C) of last weekend, over double merino baselayers and under an Alpha ROS jacket. It really removed the need for an additional gilet over the jacket, which was my go-to in that kind of tempratures, didn't do much and also blocked access to rear pockets of the jacket.

  • Fantastic, great to hear @disq :) and totally agree, I'd wear in preference of another full garment, and absolutely, all year round.

    I think I'm a bit paranoid to set expectations, in that it is thin and light out the bag (as it's meant to be) and you couldn't put under a summer jersey and transform it into a deep winter product. ...I'm probably also being a bit cautious (jaded?!) after decades of magic marketing promises on commercial kit. Would rather under-promise and have people find their own way of using - including cat duvets.

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