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  • I realise this is part of the wider issue, but I'm finding it super difficult to put myself in their shoes and come to the same conclusion. Economy wise we're cutting ourselves out of a huge group with the hopes of negotiating better trade deals with the countries we had deals with. Somehow thinking that the UK alone was in a better position than the EU. NHS was going to get all that EU money is assuming the EU is doing absolutely nothing of value for the UK, unbelievably naive/blinkered. 3 and 4 seem relatively unconvinced so I'm unsure why they'd chose the 'leap into the unknown' over keeping the status quo.

    I don't want to be thinking that everyone who voted to leave was basically anti-immigration and has since been hiding behind paper thin alternative arguments (and to be honest, I'm fairly confident that this is not actually the case). But in the last 5 years, I've not seen any solid alternatives. Well, other than people will just lap up whatever headlines are thrown at them and blindly believe it.

    I just find it incredibly frustrating that even stepping back and thinking about any of these arguments for a minute, they immediately fall apart. Hence finding it so difficult to accept the cries of "We were lied to!" to try to get some sympathy.

  • Economy wise we're cutting ourselves out of a huge group with the hopes of negotiating better trade deals with the countries we had deals with. Somehow thinking that the UK alone was in a better position than the EU.

    True, but for a lot of people their personal experience is shit and why not try something different. It's no coincidence that most of the disadvantaged places voted for Brexit.

  • Not so in poor nationalist areas in NI and I believe black Brits (who often also are disadvantaged in the UK) were also mostly remain voters.

    There is a link though, for sure, but only if you already believed the UK would have your back / all the fault of the EU.

    Hence poor unionists still voting leave.

  • But to try something different, you'd have to have some idea that the new option can actually be beneficial. Is your thinking that this is just people being swayed by the headlines and not actually looking/thinking beyond that? I did mention that later in the quoted comment there, but am happy to hear other views.

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