• I think it’s more accurate to say they let themselves get used, with this bullshit steadfast adherence to the concept of a true-blue UK which no one else parrots, and cutting your nose off to spite your face is a different thing.

    +1 to this. I have a hard time buying the "We got lied to!" bunch. Especially for people in NI who voted for this. For folks on the UK mainland sure, where to draw the lines around NI in a UK/EU split is probably not a step that they knew/cared about. But for people in NI, you'd have to be incredibly naive/blinkered to not see that this is going to result in a new border (whichever side it may be on). For me, voting for that is effectively saying you're fine going back to how things were in the not too distant past.

    I imagine the unionists who voted for it were doing so believing that they'd further distance themselves from the South, but in trying to screw over another group it's just backfired on themselves. Bit of a recurring theme when it comes to Brexit. It's hard not to see the UK as Wile E. Coyote here.

  • I have a hard time buying the "We got lied to!" bunch.

    The thing is that we all got lied to, but some of us knew not to believe it. All the information & projections were there for everyone.

  • Sure, but many UK newspapers aren't in the business to make you think, but to make you identify with "your side" and turn "the others" into enemies.

    Angry scared tribal mood people don't think clearly.

    They know it.

    But I do think you tick that box, you do carry some responsibility, and Brexit is such a mess my sympathy is of course a bit higher for the non Brexit voters.

    But more anger is all we have now. And of course happy fish.

  • Yep, I guess to echo what @JWestland replied with, once people get split into their teams, they'll go along with whatever their team says to an extent.

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