• I think it’s more accurate to say they let themselves get used, with this bullshit steadfast adherence to the concept of a true-blue UK which no one else parrots, and cutting your nose off to spite your face is a different thing.

    +1 to this. I have a hard time buying the "We got lied to!" bunch. Especially for people in NI who voted for this. For folks on the UK mainland sure, where to draw the lines around NI in a UK/EU split is probably not a step that they knew/cared about. But for people in NI, you'd have to be incredibly naive/blinkered to not see that this is going to result in a new border (whichever side it may be on). For me, voting for that is effectively saying you're fine going back to how things were in the not too distant past.

    I imagine the unionists who voted for it were doing so believing that they'd further distance themselves from the South, but in trying to screw over another group it's just backfired on themselves. Bit of a recurring theme when it comes to Brexit. It's hard not to see the UK as Wile E. Coyote here.

  • I've spoken to several I don't think it's that simple.

    Sure any ones that will vote tuv instead of DUP are hardliners. Feck em.

    And it's also definitely true Brexit voting areas were far from the UK border on Ireland.

    And yep it massively backfired.

    But the Unionist papers were not that honest about Brexit and here too some people saw it as low risk, economic reward.

    To say -all- voted to spite a united Ireland / SF is a bit simple and simple stories can kill here.

    Still waiting on Jim Allister's head to explode from rage, scanners style 😁

  • To say -all- voted to spite a united Ireland / SF is a bit simple and simple stories can kill here.

    Oh don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the Unionist Brexit vote was driven by hardening the border. My point was that surely an NI resident Brexit voter would see that either a border would be required, otherwise NI would be a backdoor into the UK, meaning all them forrins would be passing through. If the options were hardening of the NI/ROI border, or a sea border. I'm guessing that hardening the NI/ROI border would be a nice bonus.

    Would be interested to hear the opinions of those you've spoken with though. It's difficult to hear opinions from the 'other side' which aren't just angry sub-140 character rants online.

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