• I'm surprised that bikepacking is such a controversial topic on the gravel thread.

    It isn't, it just has it's own thread so there's no need to double up in this one.
    We haven't bundled unladen road riding with the racks/touring thread.
    Based on the sheer numbers of gravel bikes sold in the last couple of years, I'd say the percentage of those customers doing multi day trips and over night camping is low. The vast majority are doing single day off road routes. Not necessarily racing or even going fast. They go here.

  • i support this pivot, it's true one day rides are for what the gravel bike is for, anything more get what amey calls a gravel bike, or some overpriced surly

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