Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

If they were from track and trace, you can see where they are coming from.

But PIMS was being mentioned since april/may last year with long term covid effects.

Remember as it is kawasaki disease in adults and I have been rewatching House.

And maybe there’s a million alternative way of saying this without sounding like a complete and utter cunt.

And there are a million alternative ways for you not to look for an argument.

Am sorry for thinking that you would have remember the speech, especially as it was from the Nazis actions.

Causing trouble again?

Probably, some really hateful nazi like comments from political people have really stuck with me and in my naivety/stupidity believe that others feel the same distaste that.

Oh well better late than never....Don't panic as Matt Hancock is taking charge...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/uk-covid-hotel-quarantine-rules-wont-take-effect-until-15-february?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I think most people have the same distaste.
I don’t think you’re putting your point of view across in a way that people either understand or appreciate.

I didn’t know Ian Duncan Smith made such comments, so perhaps my memory is slipping too?

I didn’t know Ian Duncan Smith made such comments, so perhaps my memory is slipping too?

It was a decade ago. He said "Work actually helps free people.". Context seems to be "Welfare 'trapping' people in poverty says Duncan Smith" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8707652.stm

I didn’t know Ian Duncan Smith made such comments

He didn't. He did say 'Look, work actually helps free people...' in the context of unemployment benefits. In 2010. As part of a much longer sentence in which other words were used.

I can't stand IDS but there are much better grounds on which to attack his record than this.

Which is not quite equivalent to using Auschwitz imagery.

(Not that I'd ever want to defend IDS.)

Yeah, perhaps not the best choice of words in hindsight, but not the intended meaning.

I didn’t know Ian Duncan Smith made such comments, so perhaps my memory is slipping too?

He made the comment a few times, with subtle variation to different groups of people. Seems the idea of the words were not lost on him when he visited Dachau in 2009, even writing a sort of blog about the experience. He went as part of (invitation) the holocaust education trust. The history of Dachau (from when the Nazi came to power) and horror of the term work will set you free. The camp, with the motto was to reclaim supposed 'degenerates' and re educate them.

@jellybaby Also five years later at a party conference this time about the disabled, https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/tory-conference-anger-over-ids-work-your-way-out-of-poverty-call/

You can also look at the other rubbish he has come out with like claiming to be able to live on £53 in 03, https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits

But is this covid related no.

Does the covid idiots poster sink to a new low. No, IMO it doesn't.

Apparently the numbers they are reporting are a fiction.

Ah, OK. Do you already have a reference for that or did you hear it from Dr C?

Ed, I know you don't mean any harm, but I'd be grateful if you didn't reproduce this shit here. I linked to an article in the Conspiracy Theories thread, but I don't think there's any reasonable call to post the image itself. The sooner it disappears into the dustbin of history, the better.

“the disabled”

I’m not sure the point of your argument? That poster isn’t bad? That it could have been worse? Who are you defending?

Back to more Covid related chat:

Feeling less feverish, but very tired. Also I appear to have now largely lost my sense of smell and taste. Failed the soiled nappy smell test earlier. Also, I can taste sweet and salty and sour, but can’t really taste or smell what I cooked.

Just means wine and cheese weekend surely!?!

Some grumblings about it did reach the good people at everyone's favourite medical journal, yes.

Even without that, it seems difficult to believe that a network of just 23 hospitals could cope with admitting 100 children a week with such a serious condition; GOSH's PICU has 17 beds (although not all would find their way there).

The weaselling around the critical figure - 'up to', 'it is believed' and attributing the figure to Doctors they will not name nor describe how the figure was arrived at is a bit of a give away as to their level of certainty, but this is the Guardian: fuck it let's chuck the scariest stuff possible stuff in the headline because we need the numbers and freak out parents nationally.

First line from the linked article

Work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith has been accused of insulting disabled people by telling them to “work your way out of poverty”.

Will report back.
I presume drinking wine and eating cheese without a sense of smell or taste will be like drinking mild vinegar and eating pencil rubbers?

Hmm seems like I have the short end of this deal...?

Point is that 'we' can and have gone lower. What I should have said, is people complain on social media the 16? homeless people being given vaccines in Oldham.

Sorry to hear about your loss of taste and smell. Taste and smell are linked strongly in foods. Do you have blocked nose or cough?

Pencil rubber cheese is halloumi....the devils cheese.

As a foodie, not having taste and smell is pretty devastating.
Might as well just eat huel for the next 2 months...

The bland one...

Friend had it and her taste has come/coming back different to before. Eggs tasting metallic, wines and spirits tasting different to before and certain foods being inedible due to excess salt taste. That seems to be still strange after 6 months.

I think I was very lucky and had asymptomatic covid while I had a cold/chest infection.

Morning temps around 38.5.
Mid to lower back is very sore an uncomfortable.

And now I can’t taste coffee, which is an utter tragedy.