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“Can’t convict a private citizen”

Signs letter as President Trump under a dodgy eagle logo

Have we had this yet? https://variety.com/2021/politics/news/donald-trump-sag-aftra-resigns-1234900917/

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Democrats during the election: we will give everyone a $2000 stimulus check!

Democrats now: make that a $1400 dollar check...and we’re going to means test it, yes, hah! Amazing. Based on your...2019 tax returns oh brilliant hahaha wait why has everyone voted against us in the mid terms?

It’s disgusting not to give it to millionaires. Are they forgetting who voted them in?

Isn't the 1400 to be added to the 600 so 2000?

Yes that sort of “well technically” horseshit is definitely going to wash with people looking forward to the $2000 check they were promised and voted for.

Means testing is a burden on the state and the poor. In most cases it costs more money than it saves (millionaires are a small percentage of the population but the bureaucracy of means testing applies universally) and means it takes longer and is more complicated for the poor to get access.

UBI has no means testing for several very good reasons.

My point is I'm not sure it was ever a promise for 2+0.6k. I always understood the promise to be 2k total.

€2000 checks were explicitly discussed at key points in the election campaign. They were a mainstay of the messaging for the Georgia runoff campaigns. If they had meant Actually $1400 Checks it would have been smart politics to make that clear.

The Republicans parsimoniously passed legislation for $600 cheques.

Joe Mancin, Democrat Senator in a Trump state wanted the means testing.

The pre-election promise of $2000 cheques is being honoured with the additional
$1400 Democrat win bonus.

The election was early Nov and the bill was only signed for the usd600 check in later December.

The parsimonious Republicans only came up with the $600 cheque to try and save the two Georgia Senate seats, which, thankfully, were won by the Rev. Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff.

Yes. Pre election 2k was promised, post election GOP delivered .6k. Dems tried to raise it to 2k at the end of the year. Gop voted that down. Biden has now made up the diff.

There may be a case that 2.6 is needed to to say it was promised is disingenuous.

Indeed where would anyone have got the idea they might get a $2000 check?

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I don't get this. The dems said they were pushing for $2000, that had been blocked by the GOP but the dems are still pushing for $2,000. Am I misunderstanding this?

You know what, I've looked at your argument and I've looked at mine and you are totally right and I am wrong.

Help me out, what am I missing?

You are missing nothing

You get a $600 check, then a bit later you get a $1400 check to make it up to the promised $2000 total and yet you are still 'wHeRe iS mY $2000 cHEcK??!!11!'
I really think most people can do the math.

I dunno, they're different governments. If we had a labour leader get in (ha!) who had campaigned on giving everyone a £2k check for lockdown when we'd had a £600 one 6 months previous from the cons, I'd expect a £2k check.

Fairly sure the GOP won't be able to make political capital of the fact that it won't be a single $2,000 cheque when the only reason that is the case is that the GOP senators are blocking it.

I'm glad we've all double re-checked each others workings,
and,
can agree that $600 + $1400 = $2000.

Right,
we need a new topic onto which to vent our righteous spleen!

So if they sent you 2 checks of £1000 would that be breaking their promise?

I'd be cautious about them changing their mind on the second one after sending the first. But also that isn't the case here and "they" are two different entities.