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• #16252
He posted it 4 days ago and we haven't heard anything else about it since - based on that alone, there may not be much to it.
Winslow wasn't the original source. He just reposted it.
I'm not sure I follow. It is what it is. A document that might shed some light on things or might not. Agree its a bit strong to call it a smoking gun.
Edit: A more general view https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/dc-guard-capitol-riots-william-walker-pentagon/2021/01/26/98879f44-5f69-11eb-ac8f-4ae05557196e_story.html
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• #16253
Popped up on twitter - not confirmed as genuine yet, but it's being touted as such - also references an Executive Order enforcing the memo, presumably from the (then) president?
I remember there being suggestions at the time that security at the Capitol had been told not to engage with any protesters but I hadn't seen any documentation to support this - this looks like some
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• #16254
Worth adding that I don't think has verified that memo as real. However, this site was the original source and while very left leaning they don't have a track record of publishing false information.
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• #16255
I guess it looks a bit fake.
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• #16256
It depends what's standard practice, surely?
It could be a fake. It is standard practice to have some form of available air support which they clearly didn’t. Official timeline doesn’t give enough detail to prove the memo but it also doesn’t disprove it. https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jan/11/2002563151/-1/-1/0/PLANNING-AND-EXECUTION-TIMELINE-FOR-THE-NATIONAL-GUARDS-INVOLVEMENT-IN-THE-JANUARY-6-2021-VIOLENT-ATTACK-AT-THE-US-CAPITOL.PDF
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• #16257
I guess it looks a bit fake.
I assume you mean the signature . Looks like a normal signature pad signature to me personally but sure, could be fake.
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• #16258
Maybe it’s that. Plus the simplicity of it.
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• #16259
Yeah - that's what I meant - IF it was real, AND it was a smoking gun, would've thought it would have been made more of. Not yet convinced of either.
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• #16260
If interested, I have a copy of the PDF somewhere. Will post here if I can find it.
EDIT: Nah, I never had it. I'm confusing it with something else.
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• #16261
Real
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• #16262
^ Jamie Raskin, a Consitutional Law Professor.
In the UK we get an ex-fireplace salesman as Education Secretary.
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• #16263
Also real.
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• #16264
Can we stop just saying real? It's genuinely difficult to identify sarcasm around claims that something trump wrote something disagreeable...
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• #16265
I've never used sarcasm so you can trust what I post.
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• #16266
Put an /s for serious after posts where you're not being sarcastic.
/s
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• #16267
Or if you aren't sure, take all of 10 seconds to do a bit of Googling and find out.
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• #16268
OK Google, is Will being sarcastic?
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• #16269
And an \s if you are.
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• #16270
Marjorie Taylor Greene defending her past 'mistakes': "I was allowed to believe things that weren't true," You were allowed? By who? Your mum?
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• #16271
whom*
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• #16272
whanker*
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• #16273
God almighty my rep finger is a bloody stub just from you lot roasting one another.
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• #16274
whamker*
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• #16275
whamker*
Ha!
It depends what's standard practice, surely?
Is it normal to say 'you can deploy, and take all the guns,' so this is an emasculated order, or is it normal for the first stage to be 'you can deploy, but check with me before you take it to the next level'?
(ETA - that WaPo link suggests it's not normal, but perhaps explained by reaction to criticism of the National Guard deployments last summer, compounded by cock-up. Or it could all just be part of a big conspiracy.)