Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

You got a citation for this so I can show it to my Wrongheaded brother?

Thank you replying to my flippant comment.

I'll steer clear of uncle Norman.

So day 4 of symptoms, managed about 2 hours of fretful sleep as my skin felt so sensitive that the feeling of the duvet kept me awake. Couldn’t remove it either because I was so cold and shivery.
Clocked in at 39.5 degrees this morning, temp brought down a bit with paracetamol and ibuprofen.

Sense of taste and smell is ok.
Pulse ox is about 96% and HR is elevated about 20bpm

Oof!

Hope you’re over the hump having fevered it out. Heal up.

Oh sounds rough hopefully pulse ox stays ok.

Parents still ok?

FYI - My wife and I had it this was the guidance our GP sent us on the Oximeter readings

Saturation 94-95%: something is going on - consider a chest x-ray and bloods
Saturation 92-93%: You need to go to hospital Now, for assessment - Chest x-ray, bloods and ideally CT scan of lungs - you will benefit from steroids if you have covid lung inflammation - & checking for clots.
Saturation 90% or less: You need hospital admission - do not delay.

Heal up.

Parents are still ok, daughter has got a bit of a temp and a runny nose now, so got her tested with my wife having another test. She did hers at the weekend and hasn’t got her results back yet, I got mine back in 14 hours.

This is my exact symptoms from Christmas, plus a banging headache but I got a negative test.

I think it was a false negative... or just normal Flu. Shit anyway, feel better soon!

Astra Zenica pg.29
and this guy, sorry I dont know his sources and the pfizer is actually 1 serious - https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1355931522642046977

Cheers

Also looks like the one death was against someone administered with a placebo.

That's some sliding doors shit right there!!!

We’re gonna clap for an old man whose government failed to protect?

Yeah the only person I've heard suggesting it is Boris, who seems to be using his death as a PR moment. He probably wouldn't be dead if he'd done his job properly. Fuck that.

Wife has the headaches, but I don’t.
The most irritating thing actually is my lats/back muscles.
They are constantly aching so I just can’t get comfortable anywhere.

I got a message from deliveroo, they want me to clap for him as well.

This was the list of symptoms I was given when I had the trial vaccine.

Quite extensive, mine were only fatigue and body aches, so did not get a test. Only had the test on volunteering for vaccine and tested positive.

10m+ receiving first dose is way better than I expected we'd be at by now...

In the space of a few weeks nearly everyone in my family has had either the AZ or Pfizer vaccine.

Hope to fuck all this allows us to get back a semblance of control of things.

Better than the government expected too. I gather they anticipated getting to the stage we're at now some time in March. Apparently one of the local GP surgeries has already done all the 80+ and 70+ cohort in their area and are looking to start the 50-70 age range as soon as they get more vaccine.

Placebo are an issue in drug testing.

There was a case of some being administered saline solution and died from an allergic reaction. The checks and recalls of the saline bags showed nothing untoward. But it does happen.

EDIT: Didn't find what I read but here https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/harmful-placebos but it known as a nocebo.

That is because it has been done by the NHS and not some tory lickspital company.

With the blood ox - are you taking several readings at rest, different fingers, wiggle it about a bit on the fingertip before resting to take the reading. Doesn’t sound scientific, but will mean you can find the best reading - which is what counts. I usually end up taking 5-6 readings, it’s the highest one you need. Gets better if you lay down and take it while resting. Take 3 times daily for the first two weeks.

As @aroogah said - we’ve had it. Positive tests. I had fevers for 48hrs then cold/flu symptoms and oh ... so very tired. Loads of sinus congestion, not really a blocked nose. Cough but not too persistent, a bit of a wheeze. Headache. Started turning around after week 3. Had 2.5 weeks off work. Dr prescribed me Zinc (double daily dose), Vitamin D, and I also took hydroxychloroquine for 5 days early on. Also the usual cold/flu meds. Since have had a steroid nasal spray to clear the congestion. Overruling thing has been fatigue. No loss of smell/taste though.

Week 4 I finally started thinking about tomorrow rather than bearing with today, and feeling tired about yesterday. Colleagues say that the fatigue is the thing that lingers.

Do keep an eye on blood ox levels as they seem to be the thing that can give a heads up if you need scans or hospital treatments.

And drink plenty water - I’ve found I’ve been way more thirsty the past month. Have those hot/cold beakers by the bed that gives a welcome cold blast of water when needed during the night.

Also - those breathing exercises, can find the link if you need. Keeps the deep lung function, to prevent covid creeping in there. The scary comment from my GP early on was ‘once it has you, there isn’t much you can do’. Follow any advice you can get.

*hydroxychloroquine has polarised views, not all gp’s will prescribe for covid, it’s an anti-malarial, possible positive covid subsequent effect of hospitalisation needed, but (usual) low side effects of you do take it. I have taken plenty anti-malarial’s in the past so figured it wouldn’t hurt to take it. Had some minor side effects but nothing more than a day or two.

Source? Saline is used on millions of patients all the time in far greater volumes than would be used in a saline vaccination placebo. If potential, deadly allergy to saline were an issue, it would be more widely known and anyone at risk would be ruled out of trials.

Anyone allergic to saline would also be allergic to their own blood, which I fear would not be a good thing, long term. Or short term. Or at all.

You salty bitch

Thanks, I’ve been taking multiple readings on different fingers.

I try and avoid nasal decongestants unless it’s disrupting sleep as I find that drying out the sinuses gives me longer term issues.

Temp seems to be 37.3-37.5 at the moment which is a relief, but coughing feels like daggers.

It’s really difficult at the moment with both me and my wife sick, along with a 11 month old ans a 5 year old who both need constant attention.
No respite until at least another week.

Man, I forgot how bad the sensitive skin thing was... really hope you’re all getting back on the mend soon.