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Sorry, I didn’t mean to lecture you.
I was trying to respond to the fact you said the Rohloff shifts like shit with mid drive motor- but I couldn’t relate to that. Although my experience with pinion is non existent so maybe it is really a dream come true in comparison.
I’ve ridden a Rohloff / UA XL with Bosch mid-drive for approx two years almost daily, at times I was doing 50/60 miles a day. My only comparison was the same setup with Nuvinci. I’ve never used a Rohloff without the mid drive so I guess I have no expectation to how it should feel, I just know it feels 100x better than the Nuvinci in that same cargo bike / mid drive setup.
Out of curiosity, what bikes have you tried with a middrive and mechanical Rohloff? I've put too much time into an 2018 R&M Supercharger with mechanical Rohloff that never felt great (likely due in part of R&M's asinine approach to cable routing on Powertube bikes) and we also installed a mechanical Rohloff on an E8000 Bullitt as an experiment a couple of years ago. The Bullitt definitely worked better than the R&M, but the delay in the drive unit cutting power was significantly longer than the expected pause in pedaling force we're accustomed to on a Rohloff which made it feel pretty shit to me.
That said, if I hadn't spent so much time with E14 at this point, I likely would not have such strong feelings about mechanical Rohloff on middrive bikes.