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veloham
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It's a fair point @veloham.
However I have good reason for a downtube mounted cage.
it's for my commuter, so I will have lights and a Garmin mounted on the handlebars already, so adding a water bottle cage could be tricky particularly as the bars in question are of the South of France variety.
It doesn't matter now anyway as I have acquired a handlebar style cage so I will have to make room.