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That you're American is besides the point; rejoicing in the suicide of someone that you know nothing about is pretty shit.

Being happy there's one less cop to step on someone's neck at a protest isn't the same as celebrating a suicide.

Oh for fuck sake. There’s not one less cop in the world, of course s/he will be replaced. There’s one less human though.

Yes the American police force might be fucked, but let’s see this for the tragedy it is.

There are an infinitesimal number of tragedies and people in my country worth more tears than the suicide of someone who woke up every day and decided to keep being a fucking cop.

How does it benefit anyone to mourn the death of someone who continually volunteered to be an instrument of oppression right up until the day they died?

Not getting involved

Oh for fuck sake. There’s not one less cop in the world, of course s/he will be replaced. There’s one less human though.

A human who decided their life purpose is to aid and abet murder and violent oppression.

I get all that. Still can’t see the light in the story.

The whole thing is a tragedy. The system, the politics, the life choice, the life ending.

I get all that.

I don't. There are serious institutional problems with the police force in the US, but to describe every single law enforcement officer in the country without exception as being a person who 'decided their life purpose is to aid and abet murder and violent oppression' seems to me horribly over-simplistic.

The thread is veering off a bit but, the poor mental health it takes to 1. Join the police and 2. Commit suicide, is truly a sad thing. I'd never say the cop is fully to blame for their feelings/actions, but they made a choice.

Fuck me, there's some real cunts about today!

Having struggled to hold my family together through the aftermath of a family member commiting suicide I'm pretty appalled at the level of emotional illiteracy displayed here.

Please bear in mind that this thread can be seen by anyone and I appreciate that the odds of it happening are vanishingly small but it is still possible that someone who loved the individual who chose to end their life could read your glib celebration of the act that has just blown their world apart.

@velocio can we lose the offending comments and lock this thread until people grow up?

Fair enough, having lost a close friend to suicide, I wouldn't want anyone concerned to find this and hear/see indifference to their friend/family members death. Happy for posts to be censored.

I 've lost a lot of friends to suicide and it never stops hurting.
Don't think that, or what someone may think or feel arriving here is any reason to censor the thread.

can we lose the offending comments and lock this thread until people grow up?

I've lost friends to suicide, it sucks for everyone involved. But people have a right to an opinion about the victim's chosen life path. An extreme example, you sad Hitler committed suicide?

In your mind policeman = genocidal manic? Fuck me.

You don't have to be disingenuous to make a point

Fuck me.

Indeed. I wonder what the people who think 'the only good cop is a dead cop' are suggesting as an alternative for law enforcement. Because the last time I checked, vigilante gangs enforcing the rule of law in the US weren't an unqualified success.

Police reform needs to happen, no doubt.
Have said that I don't celebrate the individual death but can't sympathise and would leave it at that as anything more can be offensive. Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course, and maybe it's not so off topic in this thread, but it's turning into an argument.

Because the last time I checked, vigilante gangs enforcing the rule of law in the US weren't an unqualified success

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/l-a-county-sheriffs-department-has-a-gang-problem.html

How am I being disingenuous? When called out on your shitty support of cunts celebrating another person committing suicide you, rather ridiculously, decided to offer up Adolf Hitler in support of your position.

"An extreme example"
But sure just ignore that bit and pretend I was making a 1-1 comparison

As I said above, I think there's ample evidence that the police in the US have deep-seated structural and institutional problems, problems which are not being resolved or addressed. And for what it's worth, I don't buy the 'bad apples' argument either. However, it's a hell of a leap to go from that to the simplistic generalisation of 'all cops are bad', let alone celebrating the death of a police officer, simply on the grounds that they're a member of the police force. There are, presumably, tens if not hundreds of thousands of police officers and law enforcement agents in the US. I would be very surprised if there weren't at least a few decent ones.

The fact that you yourself pointed out how stupid what you said was as you were saying it doesn't somehow make it a well thought out arguement.

For the hard of thinking:

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOUR OPINION OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE POLICE IS. IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY CELEBRATING THE SUICIDE OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING OR MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A CUNT.

Somewhere, far away, Mike is smiling...

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let alone celebrating the death of a police officer, simply on the grounds that they're a member of the police force.

"Cebrating" is a strong word. I'm not celebrating the fact he killed himself or what people that knew him now have to go through. But some people's cultural impact by choice is to uphold oppression and take part in a deeply corrupt and murderous regime