• but are big, heavy things so not ideal either

    as stealthy black as possible and preferably available in budget and fancypants options so I can run the same shape on this and the Saffron.

    By 'fancypants' what I really mean is lightweight.
    One Rolls is roughly equivalent to two (not even particularly weeny) modern saddles.
    This bike is already pretty weighed-down by the guards, dynamo stuff and groupset... And ideally I would have the same perch on the Saffron, which will be an out-and-out road bike.

    Shame they haven't updated the Rolls (since the Due) in the same way as the Regal and the Flite.

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