Functional bikes. Not Porn not Anti

I got mine for quite cheap, can't remember exactly, thirty pounds? Maybe 40? There's some on bay right now actually.

Tbh there aren't that many 94bcd NW either though. Mine is stridsland. Before that I couldn't find any.

I've seen new square taper sunrace cranks plus NW ring for 40 pounds on eBay. Worth a look maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oecr3YuXl2w&ab_channel=PathLessPedaled

@Maj please give me tl;dr

please give me tl;dr

Jan Heine is a pompous poopcicle who wants to fuck over bike shops that carry his product.

Jan Heine is a pompous poopcicle who wants to fuck over bike shops that carry his product.

Tell us more.

it's very boring and this video should go in the racing thread, anyone who wears a jersey and cap casually needs prison

he keeps talking about how bikes handle different? never experienced this myself, they all feel the same after the first 5kms

maybe it's early onset, shouldn't judge

I'm not a huge fan of Jan, but you sound particularly bitter for some reason?

Save it for the gravel thread, this is a safe space

Tell us more.

It was taking them 1 month to get in stock product out the door this year to dealers, if customers ordered directly it was shipped within a few days. Grossly over charging for shipping also appears to be common in the last 9 months. We just got a notice that shops will be charged a Covid fee of $5-8 per tyre ordered, we are NOT expected to pass this increase along to customers and MSRP will remain the same.

I'm not a huge fan of Jan, but you sound particularly bitter for some reason?

On an non business front, his blog has become nothing more then schilling for his own company. He gives backhanded compliments to others in the industry. And the change of name from Compass Cycles to Rene Herse is complete “bicycle-reenactment.”

all three of these (your two and josh's) bang.

WTF is a 'Covid fee'?

I'm not sure that JH shills in the normal sense; I get the impression that JH genuinely believes in the stuff he sells/has drunk his own kool-aid, and through luck or design has found an customer base willing buy his reassuringly expensive wares. Even with those fans, not sure that hacking off your dealers is the best way forward...

WTF is a 'Covid fee'?

The email I received states it a temporary price increase to cover things like shipping price increases. FFS shipping rates have not increased $5 per tyre.

I'm not sure that JH shills in the normal sense; I get the impression that JH genuinely believes in the stuff he sells/has drunk his own kool-aid, and through luck or design has found an customer base willing buy his reassuringly expensive wares.

He used to talk about other manufacturers products and such in his blog, now it’s just about his products. Perhaps schilling isn’t the right term. The blog just went from being educational to being an ad for his products.

Even with those fans, not sure that hacking off your dealers is the best way forward...

I kinda forgot that there was also a note about not opening any new shops/accounts right now. Perhaps it is just an attempt to get rid of dealers and streamline it all to direct sales.

I'd argue those tyres were never originally intended to be retailed wholesale. I'm guessing they were low margin for dealers to begin with, let alone once you overlay the current global supply issues and skyrocketing shipping costs.

If it's only a 'suggested' retail price then what's stopping you from passing on the increase? At the end of the day they either make commercial sense for dealers or they don't. Sounds like they don't.

The email I received states it a temporary price increase to cover
things like shipping price increases. FFS shipping rates have not
increased $5 per tyre.

Maybe not domestically, almost certainly in regards from getting them from Japan to the US.

I'd argue those tyres were never originally intended to be retailed wholesale. I'm guessing they were low margin for dealers to begin with, let alone once you overlay the current global supply issues and skyrocketing shipping costs.

They pretty heavily recruited dealers and pushed for large orders a year ago. Their tyres were pretty close to keystone for pricing.

If it's only a 'suggested' retail price then what's stopping you from passing on the increase?

If you sell above MSRP it’s pretty noticeable to the customers. Looking up products and reviews is almost de rigueur in 2021.

At the end of the day they either make commercial sense for dealers or they don't. Sounds like they don't.

True. bike shops are suffering, and closing right now, not due to lack of sales but due to lack of available product. If they had been honest with shipping times and not tying up bike shops money for weeks at a time I’d probably be less pissed.

Maybe not domestically, almost certainly in regards from getting them from Japan to the US.

The other company that we deal with fairly regularly is Simworks who is much smaller and is also shipping tyres from Japan. Prices have increased with them, but not as much as Rene Herse. Also with Rene Herse these price increases only are for tyres and not for anything else they sell.

Does Panaracer make both of those companies’ tires?

Does Panaracer make both of those companies’ tires?

Yup. There are surprisingly few tyre manufacturers around:
Cheng Feng & Kendra makes tyres numerous companies.
Vitoria owns Lion Tires who manufacture for both Specialized and Trek.

He used to talk about other manufacturers products and such in his blog, now it’s just about his products. Perhaps schilling isn’t the right term. The blog just went from being educational to being an ad for his products.

Yeah, fair point; I suppose this is a consequence of Compass/Rene Herse producing ever more kinds of components in pursuit of his platonic ideal all-road bike.

I just really love the rim braked space horse!

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i think the truth is that people are just off-put by his cringey enthusiasm and weird demeanor/voice. i've met am and it was the same in person. glad he does what he does though: i think it has changed things for the better even if his vibe is a bit weird.

Marathon Supreme came before Jan Heine so in a way he has contributed nothing to the scene

Or the 26" Kojak