• I know almost nothing about vaccines, but I find the idea that your body can be really good at fighting the disease after vaccination, but that this still leads to you being infectious quite confusing.

    Can anyone explain how you could both be able to not get seriously infected, yet still able to effectively spread it? What existing vaccines/diseases behave in this way, and how? (not a direct question - just if anyone can chip in)

    It also seems surprising that it is taking so long to establish this, given the trials were some time ago and now real world data that must be coming in.

    The tin foil hat side of me might suggest it is convenient to leave this question hanging, as it makes it easier to insist on maintaining social distancing - which will still be important in a partially vaccinated community. There is also limited benefit in the vaccine companies releasing this data, as it's not like they need to drum up demand...

  • Can anyone explain how you could both be able to not get seriously infected, yet still able to effectively spread it?

    Being vaccinated is like installing a sprinkler system. The fire still burns (virus replicates) for a bit before the sprinklers kick in.

    There is also limited benefit in the vaccine companies releasing this data

    They don't have that data. They're only studying trial participants (people that had the vaccine). They're not studying its effect on everyone else in the world.

  • They don't have that data. They're only studying trial participants (people that had the vaccine). They're not studying its effect on everyone else in the world.

    They don't need to study everyone in the world. The way the vaccine trials work is they jab a bunch of people and then see if they develop symptoms followed by a positive PCR test and compare with a placebo group. You could run the trial and give participants regular PCR tests, regardless of any symptoms, but that isn't what the trials have done so far.

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