Running

Does anyone find that your recorded pace varies a lot depending on what device/tech you use? At the moment I'm using a hilarious plethora of technology to record the simple act of running and they're all giving me slightly different results both during and afterwards.

Tech 1: Apple Watch so I can see my pace on my wrist
Tech 2: Apple Watch uploads to Nike Run Club
Tech 3: Wahoo HR strap connected to Wahoo app because the strap is more accurate
Tech 4: Wahoo app uploads to Strava for le kudos
Tech 5: Wahoo app also uploads to TrainingPeaks for my coach (and my own nerdiness)

My Apple Watch and Nike Run Club clock me running far slower than Strava or TrainingPeaks (which are also slightly different despite coming from the same device). Which one is closer to reality?

Strava ignores time where it thinks you are stopped if, for example, the GPX/FIT file uploaded doesn't have GPS positions for some timestamps. So if it loses signal for 5 seconds but the next GPS fix is 5 seconds worth of running away it will still think you are stopped for those 5 seconds.

Using the 'Race' flag in Strava stops it doing this and takes elapsed time as running time, but doing so does a few other things differently.

But, in general, everything (both hardware and software) will be interpreting the data it has slightly differently, which leads to different results.

The trick is to pick one thing and stick with it. If you compare many then you're just going to drive yourself mad with the discrepancies.

If anything then pick the slowest as most things shave off time (through thinking you are not moving some of the time) or have moved further than you have (through GPS jitter). So, unless the GPS track misses off a huge chunk, take the lowest speed given.

Yep and sim based stuff vs gps is really pronounced. Combined with different carriers (o2 EE etc) you can get some crazy stats.

Running in the rain: I wear an innov8 ultra shell in the rain, but I run v hot and create a lot of moisture on the inside of the jacket even when it's chilly out. I'm wondering if maybe I need a different base layer? I always wear a a LS merino under it – would a synthetic layer be better at wicking sweat away under the rain shell? I stopped buying synthetic baselayers a while ago as I could never seem to get rid of the smell of sweat after a year or so of wearing it, and found that merino never smells..

Decathlon do short and long sleeve light baselayers

I use these with a gilet when it’s wet (and cool or cold)

For all the HR chat (also thanks @PhilPub for showing me the beats per mile chart!), went out and followed the Garmin lthr test protocol on my watch.

By far the least painful and intrusive threshold test I've ever done. Have to see if it is any good but the result seems reasonable and gives me an excuse to test something every 4-6 weeks.

I was melting this morning in shorts, a loose vest and gloves (my hands are the only things that feel the cold). Maybe open-water swimming has broken my internal thermostat. I do worry that maybe I should put knee warmers on to "protect" my knees but I've not felt the need to? I only do up to 10k so not long runs.

Anyone get ingrown toenails from running? I got one on my big toe when I started running about 6 months ago and thought that was that but looks like it's back. I've made sure to keep an eye on it, cut it straight and rotate my running shoes. Toenail actually looks fine there just a little sore at the top of the toe. Had to go on antibiotics last time which I would love doing again. Sorry if I'm grossing anyone out just thought some runners my have experience of it

What a difference a proper fitting pair of shoes makes! Got some Brooks Ghosts through today on gait analysis recommendation and felt like I was sailing along on pillows - made me realise how little cushioning my old pegasus' have. Weirdly seemed to be quicker aswell!

Which watch is that? Not sure I've seen that on my Forerunner 245.

I get them.. without going into specifics on here I do some ‘manipulation’ and tactical clipping to prevent them getting too entrenched.

Which watch is that? Not sure I've seen that on my Forerunner 245.

645, had a quick look and doesn't look like the guided test is on the 245

From time to time I get an ingrown toenail that gets aggravated from running.

But then again if I run a half or marathon or further will a certain amount of intensity, I’m likely to lose some toenails

Yeah I do this too, though it's more "slash it all open with a knife and then put savlon on it".

Adidas shoe sizing seems a bit iffy of late.

I've been wearing Bostons for years, ever since the Mana 6 and 7s were discontinued, and wear a 10 in them.

I got a pair delivered recently that were huge, returned them and got some Adios in 10. They were half a size too small. 10.5 seems ok now that they have arrived.

I have also had some Adizero Pro delivered in 10, and these seem like they might be just a bit too small.

What's the world coming to?
As if we don't have enough to contend with without shoe sizing problems

Yeah its really annoying. Once you get the hang of one brands sizing vs another you'd hope that would be it and with all shopping being online at the moment it is hassle and even worse when you get stung for return postage

Nike sizing I think they just pluck numbers out the air. Different models totally different fits.

Bought some Adidas football boots and they turned up today. Length perfect, but so narrow I can barely get my foot in them.

Was on the north face website the other day and they ask your size in other brands / models you wear, and it tells you which one to go for and it worked.

I've never had a nice time in adidas.

Black toenail is still black, still not managed to try soaking it, might try and find time to give that a go over the weekend.

Marathon build in full flow, on top of the volume build there's some quality coming into the plan as well now, with 8x800m intervals last night, which i really enjoy, struggled to go much faster than 5k pace, just don't seem to have any more speed at the moment!

Heading to over 90k this week which will be my biggest week ever, cycling is having to drop off as a result, and its a strange feeling when an interval set on the turbo feels more like a recovery day!

Weight is ticking down nicely as well with the fear f the marathon keeping me focused on sticking to counting calories and not drinking, not sure if i can keep the no drinking all the way to April 3rd but will give it a go!

seriously doubt the marathon will happen but as its at Dorney lake and its 10 mins down the road I'm fully committed to running a marathon there that day either way, im sick of starting to build towards a race only for covid to throw a spanner in the works and then going back to base training!

Got to test the Pegasus 37s today finally. Need to dial the lacing but they felt good.

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After getting some form back just by doing 8 miles every second day, and a 1-2 hours of regents park cycling on the other days, I've just managed to put my back out

Paying for a combination of sitting for endless hours in front of zoom, minimal movement otherwise, no core/strength type stuff.

All so predictable...

Strong running today 💪 I've got a pair of peg 37s as well and love them for everyday running. What device are your recording that on? Your calories burn looks a bit low for what looks like a close to threshold effort

That sucks - fingers crossed it’s just a muscle spasm thing that fades quickly.

The routine of sitting on kitchen chairs, hunched over a small laptop for 10 hours a day is utterly savage on your lower back - been trying to avoid the trap by doing random stretches and exercises throughout the day but it doesn’t always happen and the tweaks sneak in.

Heal up fast.

Cheers! They seem quick but need to break em in as they’re a bit solid right now. Recorded with a Polar M430. It’s got my age, height and weight in but could be wrong.

When I ride the 18 miles to work at low effort it registers it at 700ish calories which seems high, and half marathons are usually around 1300.

Ta. And yeah it’s just muscular- no nervy, sciatic stuff so hopefully sort itself out in a matter of days.

I set up a decent workspace at the start of the first lockdown - proper desk, chair, big monitor, etc. but really it’s the lack of movement. In the office I’ll stand up, go talk to someone, go to a whiteboard, make a coffee, walk out for a sandwich for lunch, cycle home. None of that now.